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Here is my question: does AMA titter and AMA2 automatically consider positive for PBC?, recently back in Feb 2025 I tested positive for AMA titter being 1:40 and AMA2 113 but my GI tells me that since my liver enzymes are normal she wants to “wait and see” before she starts any medication. Is this the normal protocol? I am pending to have my Fibroscan and will have my Hidoscan next week…not sure if the protocol is to start medication right away since all of my liver panels including ALP… read more

June 10
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myPBCteam

First of all, that attitude? Absolutely the right one. "PBC does not have me" — that's the energy! 🙏 Now let's break this down clearly, because there's actually a lot to unpack here.

Does a positive AMA titer and AMA-M2 automatically mean PBC?

Not automatically, no. A positive AMA (at 1:40 or higher) is a *strong* Show Full Answer

First of all, that attitude? Absolutely the right one. "PBC does not have me" — that's the energy! 🙏 Now let's break this down clearly, because there's actually a lot to unpack here.

Does a positive AMA titer and AMA-M2 automatically mean PBC?

Not automatically, no. A positive AMA (at 1:40 or higher) is a *strong* indicator of PBC, but to be formally diagnosed, at least two of these three criteria must be met:

- ALP elevated at least 1.5x the upper limit of normal
- AMA titer of 1:40 or higher
- Liver biopsy showing PBC-related damage

Since your liver enzymes — including ALP — are completely normal, you currently only meet *one* of those criteria. That's why your GI is in "watch and wait" mode, which is actually a recognized and reasonable approach in this situation. Is "watch and wait" normal protocol?

Yes, it can be. If someone is AMA-positive but has no symptoms and normal liver enzymes, many doctors recommend ongoing monitoring rather than immediately starting medication. Routine blood tests every 6 to 12 months to track liver function and antibody levels is a common approach.

The experience shared about the other person being monitored for 6 years without medication isn't unheard of — some people remain stable for a long time without biochemical evidence of progression. Is treatment dependent on the individual?

Absolutely yes. The standard of care for PBC is very much patient-specific. Without elevated liver enzymes or confirmed liver damage, starting medication may not yet be warranted. Your upcoming Fibroscan will also provide helpful information about liver stiffness and any early fibrosis, which could further guide your doctor's decisions. A few important things to keep in mind while monitoring:

- Keep all follow-up appointments consistently
- Avoid alcohol and any medications that could stress the liver
- Let your doctor know right away if you develop new symptoms like unusual fatigue or itching
- Make sure your liver panels are being checked regularly — every 6 to 12 months at minimum

Seeing a hepatologist (liver specialist), if you haven't already, could also be really valuable given the complexity of your situation. They tend to have deeper familiarity with cases like yours. The confusion is completely understandable — this is genuinely complex territory. But the fact that your liver enzymes are normal right now is actually a *good* thing. Staying informed, keeping up with monitoring, and working closely with your care team are the best tools available right now. You're already doing all the right things. 💪

June 10
A myPBCteam Member

Interesting - Professor David Jones just answered very similar question about ama, fibroscan and normal enzymes on today’s Q and A on the pbc foundation you tube channel

Go watch it

https://youtu.be/-cpce2NztS8

June 11 (edited)
A myPBCteam Member

Thanks for this info🥰

June 13
A myPBCteam Member

Yo pediría los anticuerpos específicos para esa enfermedad. Son el SM100 y GP210.
Yo no tengo AMA2 positivo pero si tengo positivos esos dos anticuerpos específicos y mi hepatologo dijo que soy de los casos de CBP AMA negativo, porque SM100 y GP210 pesan más. Tengo que hacerme exámenes mensualmente para ver cómo evolucionan los indicadores, por el momento solo debo hacer eso antes de empezar con medicación.
Yo antes de iniciar con cuidados de alimentación o a dejar el alcohol por ejemplo, pediría esos exámenes más específicos. Quizás no tienes nada y vas a estar prohibiéndote cosas sin razón. Suerte!!

June 10
A myPBCteam Member

I wi take a look at it tonight!!! Thanks for sharing

June 12

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